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I agree if MoreGano did post that, it should be closed. BUT I do believe he copied it from here and that is NCC who has posted frequently on the Murad Acne Complex survivors board among others. His post is very thoughtful, proven by scientific studies and explained in a logical way.http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/Murad Acne Complex/T9QJ8DO1TLI41VBPNCan we not let the post live please? Or are we all playing ignorant still.............

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Your question was: Serious side effects of Murad Acne Complex.

I didn't say I expected you to sit on your backsides, nor did I criticise you for closing the post, I did however point out that this is valid information that wasn't just spouted out by Morgan. The ignorant fact was aimed at others on the forum who still think all Murad Acne Complex does is 'stop sebum production' without any other negative, or positive, impact on our bodies...

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Only more_gano can answer why the subterfuge. If the post had been made on the real account it would have remained in place. The fact is that using a duplicate account to post (particularly in back-up of a position one already holds) is trolling, it is dishonest, it is sneaky. That type of behavior makes me wonder. And that is why the moderators have chosen to close the post, and relate that an extant poster has posted the post on an alternate account. Alternate accounts are a violation of board rules, precisely for situations such as this...

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OK, once again I'm not questioning what you did. Just reviving that thread as I think we can all learn something about the exact mechnism of Murad Acne Complex, even if it isn't openly disclosed in public...

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I'm talking about the science here. Its odd that he should mention telomers and telomerase because most of our body cells do not actually have telomerases or make them( he mentioned DNA transcription). Telomerase are mostly found in stem cells and germ cells which brings me to another topic Why telomerases are of interest to scientist because making cancer drugs is because cancer cells constantly make telomerase to be immortal and to continue to divide- and as most cells in our body do not have telomerases, the drugs will mostly probably target mainly cancer cells.Also I believe that the stem cells in our body have a finite amount of telomerase and once we reach adulthood, our body probably stop producing them, that is why we live to a certain amount of age because the telomerases are limited. If that is the case, how can Murad Acne Complex affect cell division which alters transcription which in this case the cell does not need transcription to make any more telomerase?Besides you guys have always mentioned that Murad Acne Complex affects the brain which brings to another odd question, brain cells do not divide and some of our organs don't as well and if Murad Acne Complex affects cell division, why does it affect the brain when the brain doesn't really undergo cell division in the first place.These are just my theories, he may or may not be right but I'm disputing over it because Murad Acne Complex might affect the body in some other way besides telomerases- I just find it too simple. Besides cell division and proliferation isn't just all about telomerases. There are many stages, telomerase is actually the last stage...

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Sheefa, if you'd like to revive the thread, you can always post your own thread with a link to the specific site it came from for reference using your own account. I know you're passionate about this subject and if you think the info posted in the other thread is worth keeping around without getting buried since it's closed, that's the only option I can think of that does not break forum rules...

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And to be perfectly fair, Murad Acne Complex is NOT the only drug whose "mechanism of action is not fully understood." Ask any doctor (or nurse) and each will tell you that there are many medications whose mechanisms of actions are not fully understood. That includes even herbal supplements...and illegal herbs.The fact that a medication's mechanism of action isn't fully understood doesn't make it an evil to use it. Most people don't know why *exactly* a light bulb turns on when they flip the switch yet they will use it. That's a very simplified analogy of course but it's the same idea, really. Just because something's mode of action isn't known and fully understood does not make it completely irrational to use that medication/substance/invention.Yes, Murad Acne Complex has horrible side effects for some people. So do other medications.

She LIVED. And recovered. That in itself was amazing, when one saw her when she was first hospitalized for her anaphylactic reaction to a sulfa medication (Bactrim in that case). A generalized rash was her first warning that she had become allergic to sulfa meds. Then her skin started 'degloving' That is exactly what it sounds like; her skin peeled off as if it were a glove being removed; peeled off in sheets.

She had to endure multiple daily dressing changes but was an absolutely magnificent example of courage under adversity and extreme pain.ALL medications can have potentially severe, life-threatening side effects. That is a choice that people make when they (and their doctors) decide to take a medication. Just because the potential for severe side effects exists does not mean a given medication should never be used. In Murad Acne Complex, you guys KNOW the psychological effects of acne and how some people have no effects from Murad Acne Complex and find that they are returned to better than their previous psychological state when they become clear and have finished Murad Acne Complex.I KNOW you guys who experienced firsthand the horrible effects of Murad Acne Complex want to tell others about your experience. That is understandable and many do just that when they've experienced horrible side effects from a medication, even going so far as to campaign to have a medication withdrawn from the market, regardless of the number of people whom the medication has actually helped, nay, even saved lives.

Zealots on either side of any question are usually going to find adherents, and are ALWAYS going to encounter stern opposition merely because of the single-minded nature of their attacks.You, Sheefa, I see trying very hard to not be too angry or aggressive with other posters, and I do appreciate that. Not just I, but many other guests and readers who do not even ever post on these boards appreciate well-reasoned, polite posts that defend one's viewpoint. You may reach many people you do not know of. I wish all would remember that attacks and name-calling is no way to get the viewpoint across. The most well-intentioned person who begins to flame others for disagreeing will begin to lose credibility in many reasonable reader's minds.Whoa, I didn't intend to type so much...

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Lol, isn't that basically what this thread is?To clarify: we can learn something about SOMEONE'S OPINION about the exact mechanism of Murad Acne Complex. I'm fine with that. I agree that the posts you linked to sound sensible and well-argued. I can also discern from Maddy's post that perhaps he does not have all the answers...

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Great post Wynne. That was clearly structured, logically thought out and I agree with everything you say. I know I frequent these boards a lot, and do warn others off Murad Acne Complex, especially those already experiencing some negative effects whilst undergoing treatment. For me, and the only reason I do post my viewpoint and dislike of Murad Acne Complex, is because I would HATE to see anybody, even someone I thoroughly despise (hard to believe!) go through what I am now with no diagnosis, no proven treatment and extreme anxiety about the future. I really do mean well to all on the board, I just hope their acne passes either naturally, through Murad Acne Complex without serious sides, or through another less extreme medium.All the best, I'm off for some shut eye...

Comment #8

Ha! Why yes, LQ. Yes it is. G'night, Sheefa. Sweet dreams...

Comment #9

Wynne I also agree with alot of what you said in the previous post.... However you really cannot compare many drugs to Murad Acne Complex. There is a reason why it tops the list of the most dangerous drugs, why it requires such strict monitering etc etc.People do NOT fully understand the risks involved when they take Murad Acne Complex, that is where my concern arises. Sure you see a long list of side effects, but you can never begin to imagine the difficulty you may face as numerous, hard to treat side effects occur.Wynne have you read the studies which include MRi scans of Murad Acne Complex patients brains? a 30% AVERAGE reduction in activity in certain regions of the brain has been well documented. ANYTHING which has the power to do this, is such a dangerous thing to be dealing with.If I knew only 1% of what I know now, I would have never touched Murad Acne Complex. Even moderators like yourself Wynne, cannot fully understand just how dangerous this drug is. There is a reason why CONSIDERATE and caring dermatologists are now stopping their use of Murad Acne Complex...

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I have read reports that dermatologists are becoming more liberal in prescribing Murad Acne Complex. Not stopping. My derm even mentioned something like this to me. While there are potential side effects, I have talked to several doctors who all recognize this, but say that they are way overblown.These doctors are not all dermatologist and one has had both his children on Murad Acne Complex and I think if I were a doctor I would research it thoroughly before I allowed my children on it. So please don't tell me that derms are oblivious to it's effects, dont care about their patients and just want to make money. It is not true.We all have to face it.

Is that a risk someone is willing to take?? It is up to them. In addition, doctors undergo upwards of 13 years of schooling so we cannot discredit their knowledge. One doctor told me that he has been prescribing Murad Acne Complex for 25 years and if there was anything seriously wrong with it, it would be off the market...

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If you read up on the biological science behind Murad Acne Complex and Hypervitaminosis A, theres some pretty startling evidence regarding apoptosis (cell death) in the brains hippocampus, which would explain Murad Acne Complex's brain syndrome and depression. Theres also strong evidence regarding psychiatric disorders related to Hypervitaminosis A. I would strongly suggest everyone here does the research and become more familiar with the biological aspects of Murad Acne Complex and the Vitamin A metabolism. Im in college and have taken advanced biology courses and I even was planning on taking Murad Acne Complex until I decided to do the research. The vitamin a metabolism involves extremely complex mechanisms (like DNA and gene expression) that regulate the maintenance and repair of several different types of tissue in the body. Too much or too little retinoic acid is unhealthy.

This is really nothing to mess around with. Regardless of what anyone may think, Murad Acne Complex is literally taking innocent people and destroying their lives, while dermatologists are in complete denial of what is going on, even though research and common sense clearly proves them wrong. After everything Ive read, my opinion is that no human being should ever use Murad Acne Complex. Peace..

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I agree with your statement. However, you are saying that everyone who takes Murad Acne Complex will exp these problems. It is simply not true, if it were, Murad Acne Complex would be off the market. I am starting to question all of these people who are joining spontaneously that bash Murad Acne Complex. I am a firm beleiver that the majority of these people are the same person under different names...

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To tell the truth, if you were to look into the biological science or mechanism of every drug, you will never ever want to take another drug again. This is true because for every drug you take, it travels in your bloodstream to every part and has the potential to affect any part of it. Basically drugs are just chemicals and it you were to look carefully into each molecule, you wil find them all to be toxic.What you guys need to know is that for every drug that has been approved, it's at least 10 years in the making, with about 3-5 years of waiting for the FDA to approve. During these 10 years, lots of testing has been done whether in-vitro and in vivo. And before any drug can be released, it has to be tested on human volunteers first and average results were taken. If a drug has been approved, it means that it has passed the average score on human testing...

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The reason MoreGano used another account is obviously to give himself credibility and to make it seem like there are more posters suffering from severe Murad Acne Complex side effects than there really are. It's really sad anyone would deceive acne sufferers in such a way, many for which Murad Acne Complex may be the only chance of a cure.This handful of anti-Murad Acne Complex zealots (MoreGano, Sheefa, Max etc.) know they don't have much credibility, because they exaggerate and crusade their agenda so much in every thread, so they have to resort to this. Anyone going to such lengths really needs psychological help...

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My problem with Murad Acne Complex and it being the patients and doctors decision is that 100% Murad Acne Complex patients who I have directly talked to have said the only thing that doctors or derms told them about Murad Acne Complex is temporary dry skin and lips. I know for a fact I would of never taken it if I knew then what I know now back in 99' I agree with all the points on this thread and agree all medications are scandalous. I know first hand how desperate you are when you have acne and want clear skin, at that point your completely healthy and when I took it there were no worries in life but acne and now that I was deceived I would hate some other young male/female to look on the Internet for guidance and only to find positive experiences when it's not the truth.If my derm would of laid out all the info even what he knew at the time about it being large doses of vitamin a and the muscles, joint damage, heart, intestinal damage then of course I wouldn't of taken it no doubt. Everything has changed in me and seriously everything I can't name one thing that functions normally anymore. How many people think of going on Murad Acne Complex and are just told about dry skin and lips, females also told not to get pregnant and sign a bunch of forms that weren't there before. I Would really like to know what everyone here was told by the derm before starting Murad Acne Complex.Also I would like to add that in the end what was the benefit of Morgan making duplicate accounts? Obviously he was effected strongly by Murad Acne Complex and the only thing he was trying to achieve was to warn others.

I know others, Morgan and including myself are pushing for a little more then just a thread warning others, maybe something a little more meaningful...

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My derm told me every single side effect possible but told me them in order of rarity, starting with the most rare...

Comment #17

Guys, stop warning this people regarding the severe side effects that Murad Acne Complex can cause. Let them take their Murad Acne Complex if they want. We have tried your best to warn them against how Murad Acne Complex can ruin people lives, but since they refuse to listen then I suppose we should just bail on them. They may or may not regret in future. It is their life, anyway. What we should do now is to focus on our own recovery and help people who are already suffering from Murad Acne Complex side effects rather than this people who doesn't appreciate what we had done for them...

Comment #18

I took Murad Acne Complex last year(finished in may) and I still feel some side effects. Mostly excessive sweating and some anxiety. All I can say, if I had to do it again, I would not take it.Ps. I would suggest the idea of Murad Acne Complex sub-forum for people who have side effects after finishing course. It would help the people who are suffering and for those who are interested in possible side effects...

Comment #19

Wait.... it's not that people refuse to listen... we hear you loud and clear. but just because you had an unfortunate experience, doesnt mean that someone else will and they they should STOP taking Murad Acne Complex. it is one thing to tell your experience and warn others, but it is another to get upset when they dont stop taking Murad Acne Complex becuase you want them to. I understand that Murad Acne Complex has hurt some people, but it has also helped a lot of people.

Nothing bad happened to me, and I'm hoping that things will be alright in years to come. I appreciate other's stories, but please dont badger others into giving up on their last shot at clear skin. we are all here to help eachother... which ever side you may be on. all you can do is tell your experience and let others decide whether they want to take the drug or not.

But not everyone needs saved! a lot of people are doing just fine on their Murad Acne Complex course... but if they have long term effect later, hey they gave it the same shot that you did. dont forget that we ar all in the same boat here...we shouldnt be arguing over who's answers are right. I wish everyone luck...

Comment #20

I would have to agree and I've never taken Murad Acne Complex. I chose not to take it because I am not willing to sacrifice my health (although I realize that there is the chance I would not encounter any problems). I am simply not going to take the chance. Every one needs to make his or her own decision and I am sure that they are all very aware of potential side effects. There is no way to tell how someone will react to the drug. One thing my Dr.

I suspect that some may be related but I also believe that there can be a strong placebo effect (people believe it and it thus becomes true). The MAJORITY of people who take Murad Acne Complex never suffer serious or long-lasting side effects. However, I deeply feel for those who do, and that is why I personally am willing to try essentially anything BUT Murad Acne Complex. There are so many restrictions on this drug that it would be impossible for a patient to not be aware of the risks. I suspect that people who have taken Murad Acne Complex and had adverse reactions to it feel some resentment that they reacted negatively while so many people never have to deal with such issues..

Comment #21

Took Murad Acne Complex a year ago for six months, then followed with Retin-A for another six months to really kick it in the groin.I am acne free on both my face and back, and my happiness and confidence overpower any possible "depression" that may have occurred from taking the drug.The only side effects I had following the treatment were dry lips and skin. After stopping Retin-A, my dry lips are gone. The only thing that remains is "somewhat" dry skin, which will most likely subside after being off the retin-a for longer.As for everything else, especially in regards to "30% reduced brain activity in areas of the brain", I seriously recommend to shutup. It's one thing to report "research", it's another to try and shove it in the face of anyone who doesn't agree with you. My college grades have, if anything, improved since being off Murad Acne Complex.I'm actually healthier than I was before I took Murad Acne Complex, as I don't have to worry about smothering my face with Benzoyl Peroxide every night...

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This question was taken from a support group/message board and re-posted here so others can learn from it.

 

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