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Before I ask my question, I want to ask: Scully Square BOSTON - Anyone know anything about Epstein's Vitamin Shoppe?.

My main question is: Hi,.

I got in the habit of making the Jello FF/SF instant pudding with FF ready whip when I was on WW. One serving is 70 cals prepared, and is made with 1/2 c of skim milk. The book I received with my order says 8 oz of skim milk is a dairy serving...it also says approx. 120 cals or less. I want the calcium of the milk and really enjoy this treat....sounds OK to me, but it isn't listed in the book specifically..

What sayeth NS? On plan or bust?.

TIA!..

Comments (27)

Your question was: Scully Square BOSTON - Anyone know anything about Epstein's Vitamin Shoppe?.

You're aiming for 7 grams of protein in your dairy/protein serving, in addition to the cals...and trying to stay at or below 3 grams of fat. That 1/2 c milk is being split throughout all of your servings, so you're not getting 1/2 c milk in each serving (unless you're only making one serving?). It doesn't really sound like it fits smoothly, but you may be able to ration out enough to have it as a free food?? Or can you cut back on the serving and add some milk on the side? Or add some protein powder to it?..

Comment #1

The dietitian has said no to this in the past. In fact there was a Daily Dose regarding this. It doesn't really fit as a protein/dairy serving or a dessert.

You might want to call the counselor for specifics but as rescue-a-shepherd said, it really doesn't fit the stats. If you really want pudding, try the NS pudding (high in protein) or try Netrition or Diet Direct. They may have some that fit the stats.

1 Protein (lean) = 7 Grams of protein, 3 grams of fat and 55 calories.

1 Dairy (or Dairy/Protein) Serving = 12 g. carbohydrates, 8 g. protein, a trace of fat, 100 calories..

Comment #2

As swedish8fish said, the way pudding is made is generally 2 cups of milk for 4 servings. That makes 1/2 cup milk per serving. There is not enough protein in 1/2 cup milk to be a serving and there are too many calories in 2 servings of pudding to fit..

You are better off having sf jello cup w/1 TBL ff cool whip. It is light, refreshing, filling and only 20 calories which counts as a free food...

Comment #3

Maybe she could add some protein powder to the pudding??..

Comment #4

She probably could, but I didn't want to mess with the measurements. If I remember correctly, previous questions referred to Jello pudding cups, not pudding made at home where you can control what goes in to it (but can you control the portions? I can't.).

1/2 cup skim milk is 46 calories, trace of fat and 2 grams protein.

The pudding powder is 25 calories and no nutrients (vanilla)..

The protein powder is 120 calories (I just picked one EAS vanilla) for one scoop (1 ounce), 2 grams of fat and 23 grams of protein..

So, we have 71 calories in the milk and pudding which leaves about 30 for the protein powder. About 1/4th of an ounce of protein powder gets you 30 calories, trace of fat and about 5+ grams of protein..

So it can be done if you make your own pudding, but is it worth that much trouble? But I wouldn't even think about it because I don't buy the protein powders. Just too much added expense for 1/4th of an ounce to have some pudding. LOL......

Comment #5

FREE FOODS LIST.

There are Free Foods that can be used on the NutriSystem plan. The term Free Foods comes from the American Diabetes Association. They are low calorie foods (20 calories or less) that can be added to the meal plan in small amounts. This minimal amount of calories will not affect weight loss, but we do recommend that they be limited to 2 or 3 servings per day if the foods have any calories at all.

FOOD QUANITY.

Coffee/Tea Unlimited.

Diet Soda Unlimited.

Sodium Free Seltzer Water Unlimited.

Sugar Free Tonic Water Unlimited.

Club Soda (not tonic or quinine water) Unlimited.

Artificial Sweeteners Unlimited.

Spices (salt-free) Unlimited.

Herbs Unlimited.

Vinegar Unlimited.

Lemon Juice Unlimited.

Sugar Free Gelatin 6oz per serving = 15 cal.

Sugar Free Gum 1 stick = 5 cal.

Nonstick Cooking spray Unlimited.

A-1 Sauce or Steak Sauce 1 Tbsp.

Butter Buds 1 oz.

Bouillon or Broth (Dry)- Low Sodium 1 packet, 1 tsp, 1 cube.

Bouillon or Broth (Canned)- Low Sodium cup.

Catsup 1 Tbsp.

Cocoa, dry unsweetened 1 Tbsp.

Coffee Whiteners (Powdered) 1 Tsp.

Chili Sauce 1 Tbsp.

Chocolate Topping (Reduced Calories) 1 Tbsp.

Cool Whip (fat free) 2 Tbsp.

Sugar Free Candies 20 cal or less per serving / 0 fat.

Low cal or reduced cal syrup Amount not to Exceed 20 cals/ 0 fat.

Dill Pickle 1.

Dream Whip 1 Tbsp.

Sugar-free Jam/Jelly Amount not to exceed 20 cal.

Low sugar Jam/Jelly 2 Tsp.

Horseradish 1 Tsp.

Mustard 1 Tsp.

Picante Sauce 1 Tbsp.

Popcorn (light and natural) 1 Cup.

Relish 1 Tsp.

Salad Dressing (Fat Free) 2 Tbsp.

Salsa 1 Tbsp.

Soy Sauce (Low sodium) 1 Tsp.

Taco Sauce 1 Tbsp.

Worcestershire Sauce 1 Tsp..

Comment #6

Thanks for the reply! I made it today - the box makes 4 servings, each with a 1/2 cup of milk...so 2 c total...it is 70 cal per serving prepared...a little math means the box prepared is 280 cals, so I made three servings. Each serving has 5.3 oz of skim milk. I thought it would be fine, since the book says light yogurt is fine, and those are 120 cals.

Is there really that much protien in light yogurts?.

Thanks so much for your help - total newb needs it!..

Comment #7

How much protein in that serving? That's the key. Finding a protein/dairy that fits the stats for protein/fat/calories can be tricky.

I like pudding myself but I pass on the pudding because it really doesn't fit the stats if you want to follow the program correctly. But that's up to you...

Comment #8

Yes, there really is that much protein in light yogurts.

I like pudding too, but I pass on it as well...but to me, everything counts here...

Comment #9

Have you figured the stats using Hood Calorie Countdown skim milk? It's actually lower calorie skim. 1 cup = 45 cal and 8 grams of protein. I don't know how many calories the pudding powder adds, otherwise I'd help you out with that...

Comment #10

Thank you sooooo much. Being a newbie, I never even thought of this question. The information you've provided here is so valuable to me!..

Comment #11

I know this is an old thread, but what the heck....1 cup of skim milk has 8g of protein...so each "serving" of the pudding (making 3 servings out of the box, not 4) has 93 cals and 5.3g of protien...

Comment #12

Your protein serving should have 7+ grams of protein. In order to increase the protein in another way, you'll have to increase the calories as well. You might be able to get away with that with some calculations and if you make sure your other dairy/protein is a lean protein.

I don't know how much weight you have to lose or if you have trouble losing. It's really up to you. If your weight loss slows down, knock off the pudding.

You may not have any issue at all. Just make sure you have all the protein you need for the day which is about 80 grams.

I waited about a month before I made any real modifications to the NS plan to make sure I was on track and losing. That way I was able to pinpoint the problems if my weight loss slowed down...

Comment #13

This is what the stats are for a dairy or protein serving. The Dieticians answered this for me yesterday..

Dairies and proteins are interchangeable the stats for a serving are:.

Approximately 100 calories, 12g of carbs, 8g of protein and low fat..

If your pudding fits into this, you're all set...

Comment #14

You're aiming for 7 grams of protein in your dairy/protein serving, in addition to the cals...and trying to stay at or below 3 grams of fat. That 1/2 c milk is being split throughout all of your servings, so you're not getting 1/2 c milk in each serving (unless you're only making one serving?). It doesn't really sound like it fits smoothly, but you may be able to ration out enough to have it as a free food?? Or can you cut back on the serving and add some milk on the side? Or add some protein powder to it?..

Comment #15


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